BravoBrad
Member
Its not that they get a better deal from Telstra... Its just that they are locked into a few more years of contract, so there is no benifit in changing to NBN as they still have to pay telstra.
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terryc
Member
5G YAWN, just another meaning less marketing term.
Read this and think about it
"Using more spectrum and advanced antennas, vendors and operators plan to increase 4G mobile speeds. But the key to increasing speeds as researchers look at future networks, which will someday be dubbed 5G by marketers, is to shorten the distance between users and base stations, and allowing them to automatically be reconfigured."
From http://www.pcworld.com/article/243179/4g_wireless_vs_5g_wireless.html
And again
" 5G does not describe any particular specification in any official document published by any telecommunication standardization body."
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G
and I'll chuck this piece in for good measure.
http://www.zdnet.com/mobile-broadbands-false-promise-7000015190/?s_cid=e019&ttag=e019
terryc
Member
Well, you certainly blew your foot away with that post. Totally irrelevant and full of wild exaggerations. Hint, I didn't use ALL and EVERYONE.
Geoff3DMN
Member
No you used the word "Never" in the first line of your post implying it applied to all of your post.
If it didn't then the issue was you didn't make yourself clear, if it did apply to the whole post then I stand by my comment.
I don't think I would compare the test to statements made in an article from November 2011. It could be considered a little dated.
/sarcasm
So what? I could say that "8G does not describe any particular specification in any official document published by any telecommunication standardization body."
It doesnt mean that it won't exist at some time in the future??
What's your point?
terryc
Member
It is a marketing term and means nothing.
Are you aware that 4G is the same?
It is just 3G plus, but the plus isn't defined, so it could be a carrier pidgeon to meet the marketing term.
It might come to exist, or it may not. Tech history is full of "future" devices/services that never arrive/arrived.
It's not a marketing term, it's compliance with a set of specifications set by the International Telecommunication Union.
I would say that '4G' when describing the model of an iPad would be a marketing term, but not what we are talking about here.
I would say that '4G' when describing the model of an iPad would be a marketing term, but not what we are talking about here.
I really hate this. I want to buy myself a Samsung Galaxy S4 with 4G and now I have to buy bloody bird seed so I can use the data pack with it? Do I have to get a supply of cable ties to fix the messages to their legs too or do they come with little sealable cylinders - or do you just insert it in the natural carrier below the tail? How fast do the pigeons fly in wet weather? What happens if one gets struck by lightning? What if a cat grabs one?
Stuff that, I'll get a Nokia. At least the earthworms they use don't need to be fed.
terryc
Member
Then point me to the ITU specs please?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone
This page was last modified on 13 May 2013 at 02:47.
"G is a technology used in research papers and projects to denote the next major phase of mobile telecommunication standards beyond the 4G/IMT-Advanced standards. 5G is not officially used for any specification or official document yet made public by telecommunication companies or standardization bodies such as 3GPP, WiMAX Forum, or ITU-R. New standard releases beyond 4G are in progress by standardization bodies, but are at this time not considered as new mobile generations but under the 4G umbrella.
Deloitte is predicting a collapse in wireless performance to come as soon as 2016, as more devices using more and more services compete for limited bandwidth.[69]"
We will just have to agree to disagree.
isn't my style.I'm pretty sure you need to pay for them or apply to get them. Everything is available here:
http://www.itu.int/en/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2012/02.aspx#.UZSDE7V9uSo
Obviously I can't be assed purchasing them to prove a point.
3G - IMT-2000 specs
4G - IMT-Advanced specs ("LTE-Advanced" and "WirelessMAN-Advanced") http://www.itu.int/net/newsroom/wrc/2012/reports/imt_advanced.aspx
5G - IMT-??? Theoretical/Being Tested/Predicted next generation, certainly not "a marketing term".
http://www.itu.int/en/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2012/02.aspx#.UZSDE7V9uSo
Obviously I can't be assed purchasing them to prove a point.
3G - IMT-2000 specs
4G - IMT-Advanced specs ("LTE-Advanced" and "WirelessMAN-Advanced") http://www.itu.int/net/newsroom/wrc/2012/reports/imt_advanced.aspx
5G - IMT-??? Theoretical/Being Tested/Predicted next generation, certainly not "a marketing term".
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Dave
Guest
Dont hold your breath. Samsung products are rubbish, I have never had a good run with any Samsung products, except computer monitors.
Ericsson and Alcatel will make more reliable systems.
Will it replace fibre, Lol, you're !@#$ing kidding me right.
Ericsson and Alcatel will make more reliable systems.
Will it replace fibre, Lol, you're !@#$ing kidding me right.
terryc
Member
Pretty much the case for NSW public/government schools. The situation about ten years ago was that they got what they were given/allowed, and billed for, by the dept. I can not imagine that it has changed. Schools employ teachers and very little else. The IT person is just another teacher who takes on IT support, aka basic computer support( the switch is here, the dongle plugs here).
Ok, I know this is from about a month ago, but want to correct something here - I was working on the Brisbane part of the Foxtel HFC rollout at Telstra in the mid 90s, as a planning engineer. We absolutely busted a gut to ensure that the network got as far out as possible from the CBD, including places like Inala, Redbank Plains, Logan and so on. Seemed nuts to me at the time, but I was told we expected a much bigger takeup of customers in the poorer areas than in the more affluent suburbs.
When I asked about it, reason given was that for a fixed monthly fee, people that generally couldn't afford to go out had as much entertainment as they wanted, in the comfort of their own lounge. People with more cash didn't care so much about cable because generally they could afford to go out, go on holidays, go to the cinema and so on.
The NBN is a little different, but its very clear that it had very little input from engineers at the initial design stages. If it were to continue in its current form, there is no doubt that it will end up way behind schedule and way over budget, even more so than it is now.
The reason it is so popular in technical circles is that they are going to get a prime product at no cost. It's going to be subsidised by all the little taxpayers at the end of the day.
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Dave
Guest
When did you get out Pinelli ?
I remember you saying you were involved with installing Rim's and CMUX's too.
I remember you saying you were involved with installing Rim's and CMUX's too.
Jan 1996. RIMs and DCS-20s, with the odd CMUX. plus all them pair gain systems that stop people getting ADSL
FMO was the big thing then
Biscuits
Ginger Ninja.
Seems like Murdoch got his wish. Turnbull has butchered this project so much. That he has brought it to a grinding holt. But somehow in true liberal fashion is still managing to pump out expenses and reports with no real results.
Congrats Abbott you have succeeded in destroying the NBN.
Congrats Abbott you have succeeded in destroying the NBN.
