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KraftyPg
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Can do but tend not to, but then I tend not to sell a lot these days either. I only sell to a select clientele and don't often seek new clients.
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raywise
Member
No, tend not to use laptops as I'm a mad gamer, (World Of Tanks anyone?
).
I like my beefy video cards, and in most cases unless ultra expensive the laptop mobile graphics don't cut it. (Well the laptops our company supply me never do
)
).I like my beefy video cards, and in most cases unless ultra expensive the laptop mobile graphics don't cut it. (Well the laptops our company supply me never do
)
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KraftyPg
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They are getting better in the graphics department but the trouble is and will always be heat and the fact that at some point between a 17 inch and a 27 inch screen it really does cease to be a "laptop".
Chartrock
Member
Hey, do you know the difference between a computer and a woman?
A computer doesn't laugh at a 3 1/2 inch floppy.
A computer doesn't laugh at a 3 1/2 inch floppy.
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KraftyPg
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Women don't go down on you as often
terryc
Member
Nope, I don't buy them. Never had any real need. For the Nav/CT(another project), I'll be using microATX boards and a direct 12V supply. Very easy these days with 12V LCD displays.
terryc
Member
Umm, shouldn't we transfer this to a general chat thread?
lol true
For those complaining about 3.5k for a comp. How much do you spend on your Nav + running costs?
I play (not so much now as the Nav sent me broke) computer games and would easily spend that much on a computer, have done previously. It is all about what interests you. I am now more sedate running a good laptop, but will soon be going back into the gaming desktops.
Very true, I spent $1600 on a monster late last year which I use to host VMs on and process some complex functions. I could of easily spent ALOT more haha
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KraftyPg
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I could easily spent $3.5K on a computer, for my e-comm site once I priced one at $7299 just to show I could get expensive parts, (which should probably be read as I was being a ****** but each to their own). The reason I don't is because price means nothing, with good research and matching of parts you can often make a $1.5K computer beat a $3.5K computer anyway.
I agree with that, especially by shopping around
Spot on.
Computer components are becoming cheaper and cheaper by the year.
No my point was that a 1.5K computer can often beat a spec'd up 3.5K computer. Parts may get cheaper but new parts are released weekly which put prices back up as older stock comes down but newer isn't always better.
True, but it depends on what you've spent the 3.5k on and what you've built the machine for.
If I overclock my CPU it can compete/out preform with the i7's, but I don't see it neccessary for it's current purpose.. That and I don't want to upgrade the cooling.
That's the problem, most people see overclocking as the answer to matching a cheaper system to an expensive system it's not, it's about matching the right components to the right job. So many high end systems use parts that are not as well matched as they could be which brings their overall performance not just clock speed down. Match the right components to the right system and an i5 without overclocking can out perform an i7 of "high end' caliber that are being ripped off on so many supposed specialist gamer sites these days. Even an AMD can be made to atleast match an I7 if done right, like so many other things in life it should not be about dollars it should be about the right bits in the right place.
Spot on Krafty. Overclocking can be very good, but is often completely useless. You also need to take into account cooling, which can bump the price up on anything.
A system is as slow as it's slowest component. It's all about bottlenecks!
For the record, I run an AMD system
Cooling is only ever going to be an issue if you overclock massively, given than an I7 die and an I5 die are almost identical the two chips no matter what their rated speed can be run at almost identical speeds with factory cooling. After market coolers, water coolers, fridge coolers are more for the ego than they required for 95% of cases.
I'd rather say that the slowest part of the system is it's creator, if it's creator hasn't done the work into which RAM works with which MB, which VC works best with which MB and so on then the computer is never going to reach it's full potential no matter how high the price tag is.
yep, I'm well over playing/building pc...well in reality its i dont got da time anymore and just need a pc at home to work everytime i need it to, and carry the lappy with me away, like atm sitting in a motel in Newhaven waiting for the good wife to wake up and skype me (from Italy).
Back to pc's though i thought when i stopped playing with them I'd be safe, but no the kids are both electronics fashionista's and are driving me nuts wanting all the latest.
.
When my kid gets to an age of asking for such things she can have my hand me downs (which are usually less than 6 months old anyway) or she can earn money to build her own. I don't believe in updating all the time for the sake of something new, I do believe in upgrading when my suppliers offer me freebies though so if out dated freebies aren't good enough in the future my kid's going to learn what the net is the hard way.
I agree with that, especially by shopping around
Spot on.
Computer components are becoming cheaper and cheaper by the year.
No my point was that a 1.5K computer can often beat a spec'd up 3.5K computer. Parts may get cheaper but new parts are released weekly which put prices back up as older stock comes down but newer isn't always better.
True, but it depends on what you've spent the 3.5k on and what you've built the machine for.
If I overclock my CPU it can compete/out preform with the i7's, but I don't see it neccessary for it's current purpose.. That and I don't want to upgrade the cooling.
That's the problem, most people see overclocking as the answer to matching a cheaper system to an expensive system it's not, it's about matching the right components to the right job. So many high end systems use parts that are not as well matched as they could be which brings their overall performance not just clock speed down. Match the right components to the right system and an i5 without overclocking can out perform an i7 of "high end' caliber that are being ripped off on so many supposed specialist gamer sites these days. Even an AMD can be made to atleast match an I7 if done right, like so many other things in life it should not be about dollars it should be about the right bits in the right place.
Spot on Krafty. Overclocking can be very good, but is often completely useless. You also need to take into account cooling, which can bump the price up on anything.
A system is as slow as it's slowest component. It's all about bottlenecks!
For the record, I run an AMD system
Cooling is only ever going to be an issue if you overclock massively, given than an I7 die and an I5 die are almost identical the two chips no matter what their rated speed can be run at almost identical speeds with factory cooling. After market coolers, water coolers, fridge coolers are more for the ego than they required for 95% of cases.
I'd rather say that the slowest part of the system is it's creator, if it's creator hasn't done the work into which RAM works with which MB, which VC works best with which MB and so on then the computer is never going to reach it's full potential no matter how high the price tag is.
yep, I'm well over playing/building pc...well in reality its i dont got da time anymore and just need a pc at home to work everytime i need it to, and carry the lappy with me away, like atm sitting in a motel in Newhaven waiting for the good wife to wake up and skype me (from Italy).
Back to pc's though i thought when i stopped playing with them I'd be safe, but no the kids are both electronics fashionista's and are driving me nuts wanting all the latest.
.
When my kid gets to an age of asking for such things she can have my hand me downs (which are usually less than 6 months old anyway) or she can earn money to build her own. I don't believe in updating all the time for the sake of something new, I do believe in upgrading when my suppliers offer me freebies though so if out dated freebies aren't good enough in the future my kid's going to learn what the net is the hard way.
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KraftyPg
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I could easily spent $3.5K on a computer, for my e-comm site once I priced one at $7299 just to show I could get expensive parts, (which should probably be read as I was being a ****** but each to their own). The reason I don't is because price means nothing, with good research and matching of parts you can often make a $1.5K computer beat a $3.5K computer anyway.
I agree with that, especially by shopping around
Spot on.
Computer components are becoming cheaper and cheaper by the year.
No my point was that a 1.5K computer can often beat a spec'd up 3.5K computer. Parts may get cheaper but new parts are released weekly which put prices back up as older stock comes down but newer isn't always better.
True, but it depends on what you've spent the 3.5k on and what you've built the machine for.
If I overclock my CPU it can compete/out preform with the i7's, but I don't see it neccessary for it's current purpose.. That and I don't want to upgrade the cooling.
That's the problem, most people see overclocking as the answer to matching a cheaper system to an expensive system it's not, it's about matching the right components to the right job. So many high end systems use parts that are not as well matched as they could be which brings their overall performance not just clock speed down. Match the right components to the right system and an i5 without overclocking can out perform an i7 of "high end' caliber that are being ripped off on so many supposed specialist gamer sites these days. Even an AMD can be made to atleast match an I7 if done right, like so many other things in life it should not be about dollars it should be about the right bits in the right place.
Spot on Krafty. Overclocking can be very good, but is often completely useless. You also need to take into account cooling, which can bump the price up on anything.
A system is as slow as it's slowest component. It's all about bottlenecks!
For the record, I run an AMD system
Cooling is only ever going to be an issue if you overclock massively, given than an I7 die and an I5 die are almost identical the two chips no matter what their rated speed can be run at almost identical speeds with factory cooling. After market coolers, water coolers, fridge coolers are more for the ego than they required for 95% of cases.
I'd rather say that the slowest part of the system is it's creator, if it's creator hasn't done the work into which RAM works with which MB, which VC works best with which MB and so on then the computer is never going to reach it's full potential no matter how high the price tag is.
yep, I'm well over playing/building pc...well in reality its i dont got da time anymore and just need a pc at home to work everytime i need it to, and carry the lappy with me away, like atm sitting in a motel in Newhaven waiting for the good wife to wake up and skype me (from Italy).
Back to pc's though i thought when i stopped playing with them I'd be safe, but no the kids are both electronics fashionista's and are driving me nuts wanting all the latest.
.
When my kid gets to an age of asking for such things she can have my hand me downs (which are usually less than 6 months old anyway) or she can earn money to build her own. I don't believe in updating all the time for the sake of something new, I do believe in upgrading when my suppliers offer me freebies though so if out dated freebies aren't good enough in the future my kid's going to learn what the net is the hard way.
I agree with that, especially by shopping around
Spot on.
Computer components are becoming cheaper and cheaper by the year.
No my point was that a 1.5K computer can often beat a spec'd up 3.5K computer. Parts may get cheaper but new parts are released weekly which put prices back up as older stock comes down but newer isn't always better.
True, but it depends on what you've spent the 3.5k on and what you've built the machine for.
If I overclock my CPU it can compete/out preform with the i7's, but I don't see it neccessary for it's current purpose.. That and I don't want to upgrade the cooling.
That's the problem, most people see overclocking as the answer to matching a cheaper system to an expensive system it's not, it's about matching the right components to the right job. So many high end systems use parts that are not as well matched as they could be which brings their overall performance not just clock speed down. Match the right components to the right system and an i5 without overclocking can out perform an i7 of "high end' caliber that are being ripped off on so many supposed specialist gamer sites these days. Even an AMD can be made to atleast match an I7 if done right, like so many other things in life it should not be about dollars it should be about the right bits in the right place.
Spot on Krafty. Overclocking can be very good, but is often completely useless. You also need to take into account cooling, which can bump the price up on anything.
A system is as slow as it's slowest component. It's all about bottlenecks!
For the record, I run an AMD system
Cooling is only ever going to be an issue if you overclock massively, given than an I7 die and an I5 die are almost identical the two chips no matter what their rated speed can be run at almost identical speeds with factory cooling. After market coolers, water coolers, fridge coolers are more for the ego than they required for 95% of cases.
I'd rather say that the slowest part of the system is it's creator, if it's creator hasn't done the work into which RAM works with which MB, which VC works best with which MB and so on then the computer is never going to reach it's full potential no matter how high the price tag is.
yep, I'm well over playing/building pc...well in reality its i dont got da time anymore and just need a pc at home to work everytime i need it to, and carry the lappy with me away, like atm sitting in a motel in Newhaven waiting for the good wife to wake up and skype me (from Italy).
Back to pc's though i thought when i stopped playing with them I'd be safe, but no the kids are both electronics fashionista's and are driving me nuts wanting all the latest.
.
When my kid gets to an age of asking for such things she can have my hand me downs (which are usually less than 6 months old anyway) or she can earn money to build her own. I don't believe in updating all the time for the sake of something new, I do believe in upgrading when my suppliers offer me freebies though so if out dated freebies aren't good enough in the future my kid's going to learn what the net is the hard way.
lol it is the opposite in my family, dad gets my hand me downs
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KraftyPg
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Yeah well it's my business and they are my business contacts who give me the stuff for nothing so that dictates that they are mine until I finish with them. The problem is going to be that right now my old man gets all the crap I palm off, when my daughter is old enough to want a computer there is going to be fights over who gets the hand me downs.
Probably a good idea Daveo, we kinda took over his thread.
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KraftyPg
Guest
It's the most populated business thread going, should be generating untold amounts of business 
D
Dave
Guest
Gave you your own thread guys.
Oh and its under Krafty's name.
So everyone is welcome to hijack it.
Oh and its under Krafty's name.
So everyone is welcome to hijack it.
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KraftyPg
Guest
Oh cool, I'm going to hijack it right now!
Oh dammit it's no longer in the business section so I can't be all business like. Looks like it's back to being a hack.
Oh dammit it's no longer in the business section so I can't be all business like. Looks like it's back to being a hack.
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KraftyPg
Guest
Hijack in progress.
I have a computer.
It has pretty lights.
It has climate control cooling, today in regional Vic it's friggen cold therefore operating temps are dramatically reduced.
Sorry was bored and just had to follow Dave's orders.
I have a computer.
It has pretty lights.
It has climate control cooling, today in regional Vic it's friggen cold therefore operating temps are dramatically reduced.
Sorry was bored and just had to follow Dave's orders.
Climate Control Cooling haha
It's cold in Melb too today matey, wind chilll is nasty!
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KraftyPg
Guest
Wind's not as bad here today as it was yesterday but since my office is in the garage I certainly don't need fans and stuff to keep my computer cool. I'm actually thinking of installing a heater incase the chip gets so cold that it thinks it's off.
