robmacca
Member
Is it just the Navara's that are having problems, or have people also heard problems with other makes of cars ?? I assume they make them for Toyota's; Ford's; Mazda's, etc...
Trev you have seen my navara and the issues with my SAX stuff, I have the advantage of having head office 10 mins from home so there's no avoiding me.
There rear spring setup is good but that is about where it stops.
I have a full SAX kit, after 3 months my rears have sagged by 30-40mm, I have a bit of constant weight and regularly tow a heavy camper. The springs and hangers are also contacting the chassis in 3 places either side, rear shock upper mounts are wider than standard so I have had issues with the top nuts coming undone. Front springs and shocks are very firm, even with a steel bar and 12000lb winch with steel cable.
I had suspension issues on a recent trip to Cairns, lucky enough TJM in Cairns got me back on the road again to get me home.
I booked the Nav in for Monday just gone for the following items to be addressed.
Rear springs unable to carry load- sagging
rear shocks possibly the wrong ones, as advised by TJM
front springs shocks to stiff.
They added another leaf to the rear springs, Nav now sits level
removed the inner washer from rear shock and replaced with a thinner unit, this apparently has then given plenty of thread for the nut to tighten
Nothing can be done about the front springs and shocks, they do not make different rate springs.
Finally my Nav is sitting level with around 65-70mm of lift from original, but the ride is very firm. Good on the street but not sure about off road, I need to take it for a run down a dirt road to see what its like, previously was uncomfortable so I can only imagine it will now be worse.
I have been dealing with Brad from SAX at CVSS and despite my problems has been willing to listen and has been helpful.
I expressed my concern with my faith in the ability of the product given the upcoming Cape Trip, he assured me it would love it but declined my offer on occupying my passenger seat.
Maybe we should start a thread on who has sax suspension and PM each other details of problems we are incurring.
My ideal scenerio would be for SAX to take back there suspension and give me my money back so I can move onto something more reassuring.
Had a talk with John today.
He is sending me a new pair of shocks, that he thinks will improve my ride.
I do admit the ride with a couple of hundred kg in back is ok.
Hopefully these shocks are softer!!
fj
little off topic, but how are you finding your ranchos and what compression setup are you running front and rear?
If SAX were fair dinkum about their product and backed it you think they would be a member of this forum and be available for questions to problems to give answers and support. But you can't even get help from them at their store so I can't see it happening. I don't think any consumer would mind problems with a product that is new and in development, but at-least take the ownership of the fact it's not write and help those people having the problems. Doing this would be a good business move I think. As for problems with other makes of 4x4's, I have heard that the Hilux and BT50 springs seam to work.
I discovered and told SAX when I had the rock hard ride with my Nav is that you have to run the softest shock possible. I am now using Rancos on setting one in the rear and its still a bit firm unloaded. But with the standard shocks in it had a good ride. Gas charged rebound doesn't seam to help either. So if these new shocks they are supplying arn't as soft or close to standard shock valving then they still won't work.
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Hey Navmania
I see sax joined up today, but haven't made any comments yet.
this is really dissapointing i was looking at buying a set of these in the near future.
this is really dissapointing i was looking at buying a set of these in the near future.
Hey Brad, if I cant get my cash back. You can have my Sax springs, Ill swap you for the original D22 springs.
I am getting a Dmax anyway, so no use to me.
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