D40 IronMan 2" lift suspention

[Cobez]

For those who carry a fair amount of weight in their trays, just remember you dont want your Nav sitting DEAD even front and rear. You'll still want the tail sitting slightly higher than the front, otherwise when you load it right up, the rear will be sitting slightly lower than the front and will look ****.

Unless you have constant load springs, but even still, you dont want it dead even.

Mine has 60mm front lift and 70mm rear lift as i do carry dirtbikes etc in the tray. Just dont expect to put 25mm+ spacers up front and not bust a CV or have the UCA's knocking the coil bucket up front.

For the SIZE of the spacer, add approx 10mm EXTRA for the lift size.

EG: 25mm spacer = 35mm lift approx

 

[BJJ84]

What do you guys think of this suspension pack? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-N...ries&hash=item58946cf3e5&_uhb=1#ht_1647wt_960

Hi 4BYFOR, have you purchased a kit yet? The one in the link above looks good and that is what Fulcrum supply for the same price. I descided to source everything myself and have ended up with the following:
King Springs coils - $156 (eBay)
Toughdog leaves c/w bush kit, U-bolts and greaseable shackles - $700 (Opposite Lock)
Bilstein 5100 shocks and adjustable struts - $495 (Summit Racing USA)

This means I have a top quality (hoping) setup delievered to my door for $1350! All I have left after fitting is a wheel alignment.

Should have everything next week to fit that weekend, can't wait to see what it's like!

 

[BJJ84]

on another note, I was also keen on the bang-for-buck price of Ironman gear. I guess their gear gets mixed reviews, but a mates mechanic fitted a bunch of IM kits to a fleet of cars and a lot had problems. Some as bad as leaf packs falling apart. I don't know what they did with the cars and never saw anything myself, but that enough to turn me away...

 

[4BYFOR]

Nah I haven't purchased any yet. I'm not going to go for the ironman gear it looks really cheap too cheap I think.. I think I will be purchasing the Bilstein 5100 from the states with adjustable front shocks. Then buy the king springs off eBay for 150$ and source a decent leaf pack.. Bushes for the rear costs 80$ and just need a price on ubolts so yeh $1200 all up I'm guesstimating it would be around to purchase it.. (Same price as the ironman except 100 times better)Fitted with wheel alignment all up I'm thinking $1500 at least this way I can buy as I go and not fork out $1500 straight up.. Money is tight these days so but by bit won't hurt as much

 

[BJJ84]

yeah, that's why I did it that way. I know the toughdog leaves will be good, the other options are EFS, they're also available on eBay. My leaves were $500, $60 for u-bolts, $130 for bushes and $80 for greaseable shackles, was $770 all up but they did it for $700. The cheap way out is extended shackles, but I believe they're illegal. From what I've seen, any good leaf pack is going to be around the $500 mark and bushes, shackles and bolts $200-300, the rear is definitely the expensive end!

 

[4BYFOR]

yeah, that's why I did it that way. I know the toughdog leaves will be good, the other options are EFS, they're also available on eBay. My leaves were $500, $60 for u-bolts, $130 for bushes and $80 for greaseable shackles, was $770 all up but they did it for $700. The cheap way out is extended shackles, but I believe they're illegal. From what I've seen, any good leaf pack is going to be around the $500 mark and bushes, shackles and bolts $200-300, the rear is definitely the expensive end!

So how do you find the shocks? and what rear leaves do you have in yours?

 

[BJJ84]

it's all on order at the moment, I'm hoping to fit it next weekend
king spring coils
toughdog leaves
Bilstein 5100 shocks

I'll post pics and how it rides once it's all in. I only ordered the shocks yesterday, so they will be the last item to arrive

 

[4BYFOR]

it's all on order at the moment, I'm hoping to fit it next weekend
king spring coils
toughdog leaves
Bilstein 5100 shocks

I'll post pics and how it rides once it's all in. I only ordered the shocks yesterday, so they will be the last item to arrive

Nice man! Yeh pleas let me know that's what I want to do and I really want some feedback on the bilstein shocks.. Read up a lot and watched some utube clips and can't fault them yet.. I may be doing the same setup as you. Also let me know about the springs too .. Are the rear HD tough dogg leaves?

 

[BJJ84]

will do! i know the Bilsteins are quality, I just got nervous when Fulcrum (a Bilstein stockist) don't know the 5100, but it's because they're built for the American Frontier. Heaps of people have them here and have no dramas so for $495 for a full delivered, I couldn't go passed them.

The rears are toughdogs 0-300kg, so they aren't HD, they have a 300-500kg set I believe as well but I don't carry anything day to day so I went with the lighter set

 

[Zanick]

Spanner in the works...

I just went to a 4by place today and had the same discussion. i mentioned IM and their price VS quality and he (the owner of the shop) said he put in a full set of IM in his GU when they first came out and thought it was great. 4? years on and his bother has the car and still no problems.
he went with the foam cell like i was thinking.

By the end, i though..., yeah maybe...!

I also mentioned Tuffdog and he said they were ok but costly for what they were and shitful if theres a warranty issue, Even- nah sorry..., he pushed them too far..... we can tell by the way the spring... etc.

My mate from pedders said bilstein but costly...
Im not sure now. as you said 4byfor, money's tight ATM.

Ive already had the rear springs done thru pedders. Whole new leaf installed and Pack reset.
Extra 75-80mm height on what it rolled in at- pretty loaded up with work gear.

Not sure which way ill go now...

 

[navarian]

A thread from the Frontier forum on 5100's that seems to go full circle,it's long and painful, but stick at it.
http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f26/bilstein-levelling-shocks-w-lift-coil-springs-done-61811/

May help with the set up.

 

[4BYFOR]

A thread from the Frontier forum on 5100's that seems to go full circle,it's long and painful, but stick at it.
http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f26/bilstein-levelling-shocks-w-lift-coil-springs-done-61811/

May help with the set up.

That is a lot of reading got to the 3rd page and then realized there is 52 pages lol

 

[navarian]

Mate,it's painful but i read the whole lot last sunday,had to have a panodol sandwich afterwards LOL.
But there were alot of stuff ups made along the way resulting in very stiff suspension set ups.
From what i gather from that thread if you don't set up right you are taking a back wards step with those 5100's.
What i did notice though is that alot of the guys didn't have a bull bar or winch fitted,they seemed more concerned with leveling the vehicle and went very over board with the spring set ups,and raising the circlip adjuster too high.

 

[4BYFOR]

Lol @ Panadol sandwich.. Yeh I'm going to read it soon might be worth it if it saves me making the wrong move..

 

[BJJ84]

hey navarian, I'd already been to that 52 page topic as well, but chose to flick through a few pages rather than read the lot. I think the mistake people make is trying to go too high with the 5100's. They are adjustable 0-2.75" with factory coils, if you put 40mm coils in them and put the clip too high, you will only go 2.75" then start putting heaps of pre-load on the spring.

the kings coils i ordered are on back order and 3 weeks away from that supplier so i cancelled the order and am now going Dobinsons MD coils. I'll try them on the bottom clip first which will give me the 40mm from the coils, if I find them too low or too soft, i'll take them out and go up a clip. all sounds good in theory, but i won't know until everything arrives, only have my rears at the moment, waiting for coils and shocks

 

[BJJ84]

also, with an extended length 2.75" over standard, they should have .75" more droop than any other strut so UCA and coil bucket clearance may well be a problem, but I'll go after market UCA's if that's the case and enjoy the extra droop

 

[4BYFOR]

Looking foward to your review

 

[BJJ84]

to not block this thread, I've started one in members rides called BJJ84 D40 build, will update that one instead

cheers