gunning1987
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Theres now a plate available from Superior Engineering, $150 isnt a bad price either.
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Has anyone installed these plates? Are they worth it? Was it difficult to get all the paperwork sorted?
Czechmate
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Theres a tendency to blame nissan when there's a problem but when the same thing happens to a toyota its "you must have pushed it too hard"
I wonder if that's because we've all seen Hiluxes dropped off cliffs and washed up on beaches in perfect nick?
bods
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bods
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And on another note... If it makes you feel any better
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Too true oldtony
Gotta admit that hilux ad from when the new generaton first came out was genius marketing
Gotta admit that hilux ad from when the new generaton first came out was genius marketing
And on another note... If it makes you feel any better
thats a good example of why any ute breaks its chassis.
an extended deck (its gone way past the end of the tow bar) and the weight is all at the rear. i'll bet if you put it on the scales the rear axle would be grossly overloaded.
Indeed, it was a great advert. Wish the guy wasn't running up the beach with a woody though, that was a shocker. Are all Toymotor drivers like that? I don't think I want to know. Maybe that's why they have such a small exhaust. Meeeoooooow!
^^ it's simply disaster that was designed to happen. Look at the distance from the back of the tray to the axle. That distance is your lever. Ever used a breaker bar to loosen a nut? It wasn't 3cm long was it? No, more like half a metre. The lever in the above picture looks to be what, one and a half wheel diameters behind the tyre, plus the half wheel diameter = 2 wheel diameters. Stock wheels are about 770-780mm in diameter, so that overhang is approaching 1.6m in length. Imagine what you could do with a breaker bar that long!
Now go look at a Pathfinder. Or a Cruiser. Or a Patrol. Any of those wagons. Look at the distance from the towball to the rear axle.
Once you do that, and understand the force magnification, you'll never overload your tray/trailer again.
^^ it's simply disaster that was designed to happen. Look at the distance from the back of the tray to the axle. That distance is your lever. Ever used a breaker bar to loosen a nut? It wasn't 3cm long was it? No, more like half a metre. The lever in the above picture looks to be what, one and a half wheel diameters behind the tyre, plus the half wheel diameter = 2 wheel diameters. Stock wheels are about 770-780mm in diameter, so that overhang is approaching 1.6m in length. Imagine what you could do with a breaker bar that long!
Now go look at a Pathfinder. Or a Cruiser. Or a Patrol. Any of those wagons. Look at the distance from the towball to the rear axle.
Once you do that, and understand the force magnification, you'll never overload your tray/trailer again.
bods
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^^which is the biggest problem with dual cabs. They want more cab space, so naturally they need more chassis to achieve it. The wheelbase doesn't change though, so you run out of chassis before you run out of tray. If the made the chassis longer you'd never get anywhere off-road with them, which is the next problem...
exactly.
people are not using them for what they are made for.
if you want to carry loads use a single cab, possibly a king cab.
one simply demo is to go stand behind the cab, then stand on the tow ball and see how much more the tray drops.
The longer chassis does make it more difficult to go off-road, the rampover is a major pain sometimes, but when towing it's a blessing. Makes the rig more stable.
It also increases the turning radius. Something those D22 guys have been hassling D40 owners over for a long time. The D40 has something like 100mm longer wheelbase than the D22, and it's 300mm longer than a Pathfinder. That means the Pathy will pitch more than the D40, but the towball-to-axle distance is so short, a Pathy makes a better heavy tow vehicle if you don't play nice with the car.
However, if you are prepared to play nice - good suspension, good hitch (5 bolt vs 3 bolt) and a properly set up weight distribution hitch - the ute has the advantage of a lot more storage space.
Where does the Pathy owner put a genny? Or an Engel fridge? What about some spare fuel?
IMHO, you can't beat the ute, and as long as you set it up right and drive to the conditions, you won't suffer the problems that some have.
It also increases the turning radius. Something those D22 guys have been hassling D40 owners over for a long time. The D40 has something like 100mm longer wheelbase than the D22, and it's 300mm longer than a Pathfinder. That means the Pathy will pitch more than the D40, but the towball-to-axle distance is so short, a Pathy makes a better heavy tow vehicle if you don't play nice with the car.
However, if you are prepared to play nice - good suspension, good hitch (5 bolt vs 3 bolt) and a properly set up weight distribution hitch - the ute has the advantage of a lot more storage space.
Where does the Pathy owner put a genny? Or an Engel fridge? What about some spare fuel?
IMHO, you can't beat the ute, and as long as you set it up right and drive to the conditions, you won't suffer the problems that some have.
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