Snorkels on town cars

[bloke48]

OK, so confusion reigns and I need some help with sensible advice. I drive the streets of virtually every town in Eastern Oz and see countless 4wd's with snorkels on vehicles that undoubtedly never see a river crossing or bulldust. They all have their intakes facing forward and must serve beautifully as rainwater scoops in a good downpour soooooo....

How come these things are a good thing if they scoop water or moisture straight into (by-passing whatever water-in-the-fuel filtering device you might have installed) the engine? I am reminding myself that Nissan etc. must have had some plan when they DIDN'T locate the primary air intake to the engine outside the engine bay and exposed to that downpour.

On the other hand, how come I read about the efficiencies of water vapour being introduced to the combustion chambers of diesels as a good thing? Is there a link here?

I am trying to find an alternative to "They just look horny" when I see so many of them on Mum's pre-school bus in the suburbs.

 

[happy john]

Like you said "They look horny",but the Safari has water separators on the ram the Airtec,Tjm,ect do not and as you say most never see anything more than a wet speed bump.

 

[Old.Tony]

If you crack open your air filter, you'll find a small hole in the bottom that will let the water out. Airtecs have a groove at the rear of the head that should allow rain out too.

We've driven in some really awful downpours and our air filter has remained dry.

Now, for an about-town car - there's still an advantage in having a snorkel. Your intake air is heated up by the hot engine (measured by the MAFS which is pre-turbo). It can reach 30C above ambient (that I've seen - I suppose it could get higher). Drawing the air in from outside the engine bay gives you cooler, denser air which aids combustion.

I won't disagree about the **** factor there - but they aren't alone. You have to ask why a Holden ute needs 18 antennae, 8 driving lights and a bullbar off a Western Star.

 

[ourd40]

Like you said "The Safari has water separators on the ram the Airtec,Tjm,ect do not

Yeah sorry but the TJM does have the water separator in ram..

 

[TigerST]

I like the looks of the tjm ones & Nissan use them too.
All Snorkels have some sort of run off grove that keep water out...

I find it's a **** factor. If you add a lift and Mud tires you look like your into 4wding. But only up close. Where if you see a Snorkel from a far you think thats a 4wd.

Mine I have Bull bar, lights, Lift & Aggressive A/T but NO snorkel and It looks soft. But once I add a snokel it will look tough...... I'm going TJM as it hugs the car.

 

[joe2006]

As OT has said, there is a drain hole in the bottom of the airbox.

I have a Nissan/Airtec although if I had my time again, would have a Safari, despite the fact I think they are ugly.

After taking it back to the dealer to have it sealed properly, they removed the bit of foam in the side apron and used polyurethane to seal the ducting from the airbox to that inside the guard. Given that there is no flexible ducting joining these bits, vibration from the motor though to the airbox has compromised the joint. I have resealed it and will see how it goes but suspect that over time, these parts will separate again.

IMO the way the Safari is designed better and the fitting instructions suggest that it is designed to be watertight. I really don't think the same can be said for the Nissan snorkel.

 

[Old.Tony]

Found one.

They didn't need a snorkel either.

 

[joe2006]

That looks lovely

 

[TigerST]

As OT has said, there is a drain hole in the bottom of the airbox.

I have a Nissan/Airtec although if I had my time again, would have a Safari, despite the fact I think they are ugly.

After taking it back to the dealer to have it sealed properly, they removed the bit of foam in the side apron and used polyurethane to seal the ducting from the airbox to that inside the guard. Given that there is no flexible ducting joining these bits, vibration from the motor though to the airbox has compromised the joint. I have resealed it and will see how it goes but suspect that over time, these parts will separate again.

IMO the way the Safari is designed better and the fitting instructions suggest that it is designed to be watertight. I really don't think the same can be said for the Nissan snorkel.

Tjm make the nissan ones to Nissan specs. And Nissan don't call them Snokels they are rasied intakes. LOL. So no need for them to be sealed....... But the TJM are Snokels and they must be sealed.

 

[Malicious]

Found one.

They didn't need a snorkel either.

And that's why they want bullbars banned ,

 

[TigerST]

And that's why they want bullbars banned ,

Not complete correct on that one. Its any type of bar on any car. You got to remember that most of the protests are from people wouldn't know a 5post from a nudge bar....... And sure bars like that look good but are over kill around town. But is most big Citys any bar is over kill. I would rather be hitt by a big 5 post bar as it wont push you under the car. The ARB style will.

 

[sparra04]

Found one.

They didn't need a snorkel either.

that should not be allowed on our roads
fkin ridiculous

 

[Busiboy]

that should not be allowed on our roads
fkin ridiculous

People would say the same about a 5 inch lifted Nav with Artic whels and guards as well.

Each to their own, as long as it is safe we are all car enthusiasts.

Except people who buy great Wall utes and put spoiler kits on them, they are ******s.

 

[miner-matt]

People would say the same about a 5 inch lifted Nav with Artic whels and guards as well.

Each to their own, as long as it is safe we are all car enthusiasts.

Except people who buy great Wall utes and put spoiler kits on them, they are ******s.

HA!! i just nearly choked on my coffee when i read that!!

:*******:

 

[TigerST]

People would say the same about a 5 inch lifted Nav with Artic whels and guards as well.

Each to their own, as long as it is safe we are all car enthusiasts.

Except people who buy Great Wall utes and put spoiler kits on them, they are ******s.

Very True........

 

[gadgets]

Found one.

They didn't need a snorkel either.

Love it! Id have it in a heartbeat if I lived out bush. Each to their own

 

[gadgets]

People would say the same about a 5 inch lifted Nav with Artic whels and guards as well.

What he said. Very true! There are better things to worry about in life!

 

[TigerST]

Love it! Id have it in a heartbeat if I lived out bush. Each to their own

Mate stuff living out bush I'll have it in town. Speed humps might be a problem tho. But I'm from Canberra thos things are eveywhere.... One of those with a big stroked LS1 zooming down the drags on wednesday night in Sydney be awesome to see.

 

[siringo]

Semi's have had snorkels since ever, well I can remember as far back as the 70's seeing 'em on trucks.

 

[obr1en]

When I fitted my Ironman snorkel i sealed up the drain hole in the bottom with a bit of Silicone.

Is this probably not a good idea?

I have opened the air box a few times and you can see a slight amount of moisture has been in there.