Cobez
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Common sense and making errors is far better for learning than instructions. I did the same mate.
Catch Cans (2 sizes) - Forefront Industries
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Common sense and making errors is far better for learning than instructions. I did the same mate.
thinking about swopping the pipes meself just thought I might get a response from the forefront guys is all. swopping the pipes would make it easier for the drain back system
Malicious
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I would there is 20 layers of mesh to get through , the drain lines up with the top hose , I did ask forefront the question and they did agree .
Part of my work involves filters , fluids gases etc. so have a little knowledge of this sort of thing
Part of my work involves filters , fluids gases etc. so have a little knowledge of this sort of thing
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might even be able to bloke the large hole in the bottom of the filter and drill a few drain holes throu the bottom plate between the outter case and the drain that way the over preasure release valve would still work, mind you swopping the pipes would be easier
Malicious
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Take a look at the diagram for the larger one, the over pressure valve is likely to have issues if the oil level fills up on the outside before making it through the filter
Ok after following destructions, in through the bottom and out through the top. It DOESNT work. After 8k left more oil in outlet hose than not having filter. And clear drain hose not even touched by oil.
Did read to run backwards. In through the top and out the bottom. Will be trialing this for another service distance.
Will report back. In 5k to 8k!
Did read to run backwards. In through the top and out the bottom. Will be trialing this for another service distance.
Will report back. In 5k to 8k!
Cobez
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Ummm, they ARE supposed to be inlet top, outlet bottom....
Dont expect catch cans to pick up tonnes of oil in the first week or so. Mine took a 300km trip to start noticing the results. Around town it will take longer. I run a Provent though, but these Forefront ones look good too so you wont be let down.
I have now done 3000kms with the can fitted, drain hose is still clean, but the can itself and filter has quite a bit of oil in it.
Dont expect catch cans to pick up tonnes of oil in the first week or so. Mine took a 300km trip to start noticing the results. Around town it will take longer. I run a Provent though, but these Forefront ones look good too so you wont be let down.
I have now done 3000kms with the can fitted, drain hose is still clean, but the can itself and filter has quite a bit of oil in it.
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REGARDING THE SMALL CAN
they are supposed to be connected top to turbo and bottom from rocker cover
the idea to this is that is the flow direction of the gas ....so the oil and air will be traveling in this direction pulling or pushing the oil through the filter to the middle cavity in the can and using gravity to drain to the bottom
HOWEVER!!! many users like malicious have experimented with exchanging the pipes and have had reported very good results...some say better than if the other way around
im confused by this
they are supposed to be connected top to turbo and bottom from rocker cover
the idea to this is that is the flow direction of the gas ....so the oil and air will be traveling in this direction pulling or pushing the oil through the filter to the middle cavity in the can and using gravity to drain to the bottom
HOWEVER!!! many users like malicious have experimented with exchanging the pipes and have had reported very good results...some say better than if the other way around
im confused by this
How are you confused. Followed destructions in your first post, rocker cover to inlet (bottom) ,Outlet (top) to turbo not hard. After 8000kms it cought jack.
Now after another 5000kms to 8000kms I will report back from running it backwards bottom to turbo and top to rocker cover as some others have reported.
Now after another 5000kms to 8000kms I will report back from running it backwards bottom to turbo and top to rocker cover as some others have reported.
ran mine for a week the factory way and it caught oil the intake side was oil coated and outlet side nuttin. switched sides thou so its more effective when plumbing the oil waste pipe back into engine just incase oil vapour from sump makes it way up
rastik86
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Has anyone fit a large catch can in a ZD30 like this?
If so have you got any pics around the catch can to see what to do with the bottom, the clearance around it and exact location in relation to the fuel filter and firewall?
Did you have to move anything or modify the drain outlet on the can or anything?
I was mucking around before and trying to dummy up where to put it, ways to face the inlet/outlet, etc. but had trouble with the drain outlet touching the body work or just getting F all clearance. Either that or trouble fitting it where the bonnet hinge would clear.
Or has anyone found a location to get better clearance around the drain outlet?
If so have you got any pics around the catch can to see what to do with the bottom, the clearance around it and exact location in relation to the fuel filter and firewall?
Did you have to move anything or modify the drain outlet on the can or anything?
I was mucking around before and trying to dummy up where to put it, ways to face the inlet/outlet, etc. but had trouble with the drain outlet touching the body work or just getting F all clearance. Either that or trouble fitting it where the bonnet hinge would clear.
Or has anyone found a location to get better clearance around the drain outlet?
I would like to know how to clean the filter inside the catch can. I had a mate tell me to drop in a bucket of Kerosene, but I am not really feeling that. What is the recommendation from the manufacturer? I went to the Forefront website but could find any information on cleaning it.
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yeh i would suggest petrol ....diesel ....kero....anything that dissolves oil really well... and something that can dry out in the sun
ShortyNavros
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Rastik I have mine like this, I drilled a hole in the engine bay floor/wheel well roof so the drain bung pokes through to the wheel well, that way you wont have clearance issues up top.
Thread from the dead.
So I finally got around to making a bracket to mount this puppy, turns out I ended up having the same idea as DaveHAT... works great and out of the way, until I blow a tail light fuse I guess.
Bracket was made from scrap steel in our workshop (also made the EGR plate), lick of paint from a can left over from another job, hose to plumb it up was about $15 overall one of the cheapest mods I've done. I've plumbed it 'backwards' as previously described as it makes sense to me. I'm about to do a 7000klm 'round trip so I should be able to give a an accurate account of highway and city results ( I haven't plumbed a drain pipe, any overflow will be on the inner guard)
So I finally got around to making a bracket to mount this puppy, turns out I ended up having the same idea as DaveHAT... works great and out of the way, until I blow a tail light fuse I guess.
Bracket was made from scrap steel in our workshop (also made the EGR plate), lick of paint from a can left over from another job, hose to plumb it up was about $15 overall one of the cheapest mods I've done. I've plumbed it 'backwards' as previously described as it makes sense to me. I'm about to do a 7000klm 'round trip so I should be able to give a an accurate account of highway and city results ( I haven't plumbed a drain pipe, any overflow will be on the inner guard)
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nuckin futs
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anyone got a pic of the large can on a d40. thinking i should of got the smaller one
This is a small catch can, fitted to my 2006 D22.
Bracket is aluminum angle, shaped and bolted.
Fitted a clear plastic tube with a tap on the end.
Did a trip to Darwin, about 8ths kys, collected about 300 to 400mil.
To much i think, should have measured it properly, after this oil and filter change i will drain and measure properly.
Bracket is aluminum angle, shaped and bolted.
Fitted a clear plastic tube with a tap on the end.
Did a trip to Darwin, about 8ths kys, collected about 300 to 400mil.
To much i think, should have measured it properly, after this oil and filter change i will drain and measure properly.
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