My d22 from GO to WHoA

[SOLID D22]

Thanks joshy, im not worried about what gearing are in them if i find one, thats an easy fix. The dana44 that were in chev's iv heard are far to wide to fit under the nav something like way over 100mm wider, but if im wrong and it fits il take it.

 

[Leprechaun]

Thanks joshy, im not worried about what gearing are in them if i find one, thats an easy fix. The dana44 that were in chev's iv heard are far to wide to fit under the nav something like way over 100mm wider, but if im wrong and it fits il take it.

Could you cut the axels and have them resplined?

 

[SOLID D22]

It can be done but might end up costing a fair bit, if worse comes to worse il have to do it.

 

[joshy]

mates got an old cherokee sitting around waiting to get scrapped. just gota find out what the stud pattern is.

 

[SOLID D22]

Hopefully 6, there wasn't that many 6 stud cherokees made, not as much as 5 stud anyway.

 

[SOLID D22]

Got my hi lift jack today, dont know how good it is as its one from a magazine promotion it just lifts the front wheels off the ground with only about 2 or 3 clicks to go.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8307/imgp2680s.jpg

 

[SOLID D22]

Ok let me try it again.

 

[joshy]

todays safety message, dont get under them when working on a car, i had an 80 series fall on me. Luckily we had put the tyres under the car and luckily they wernt cheese cutter tyres.

 

[Aido]

That is a great pic.
Makes me wonder though. Is articulation more beneficial than ground clearance? From the pic above it would seem that aside from being able to keep both wheels on the ground the whole effort is hobbled somewhat by not achieving any further ground clearance.
Not wanting to piss on the parade or anything but if you were to be in some modest ruts wouldn't you just drag the diff through and possibly lose all traction through grounding it? Then follows the rear diff until the rear loses traction and leaves you high and dry?
Is this why IFS came about but that it just has too limited travel?
I know this is your build up thread but perhaps between you and Joshy you could explain why it is necessary in another?

 

[SOLID D22]

todays safety message, dont get under them when working on a car, i had an 80 series fall on me. Luckily we had put the tyres under the car and luckily they wernt cheese cutter tyres.

Thats spot on joshy, its not meant to be a jack to use for working on the car, it even says that on the jack itself. Even by lifting my car in the driveway when it was halfway up the jack was already leaning towards the right.

 

[Leprechaun]

You need articulation for grip, you don't move when the wheels don't touch the ground. ground clearance from bigger tyres to get those diffs up as you mentioned results in needing to lift the body to clear the bigger rubber.

 

[Aido]

Yeah but.....

If the diff lifts both off the ground then where are you?




"Hello cat.....have you met my pidgeons?"

 

[SOLID D22]

The lowest point of the front diff is the diff centre itself, with ifs the whole arm holding suspension is in the way, also go over a decent bump in the tracks(this is slow off roading) and if you bend your torsion bar itl be a slow drive home as that torsion bar will be doing nothing at all.

The amount of drop a solid front end enables you to have means a 5ft rut is no problem to attempt, depending on setup and shocks used, but with ifs even if you lift it 4inch the susp arms are still bolted to the same point of the chassis so the flex is almost the same as stock, you just have a raised looking car, which is better for clearance but actually no real off road flex improvement.

 

[Aido]

As for the jack it is meant to be for recovery I thought. Whereby you can use it in most circumstances to lift a wheel and place a solid object under it for traction or to change a tyre in difficult terrain.
A 4 post hoist is what you want!

 

[SOLID D22]

I can fit 35's under my car now but if i want to do any off roading with those tyres i will need to trim some flares all round and massage the front inside fender too.

 

[SOLID D22]

As for the jack it is meant to be for recovery I thought. Whereby you can use it in most circumstances to lift a wheel and place a solid object under it for traction or to change a tyre in difficult terrain.

That is true.

 

[Aido]

Is this why IFS came about but that it just has too limited travel?

Thats what I was getting at.
There is still a plane between wheel centres where obstructions will impede your travel though ( the diff and its centre)

 

[Aido]

Unimog perhaps?

 

[SOLID D22]

Yeah the centre is always going to be in the way unless you fit bigger tyres or there is a gear system that bolts onto your hubs which give you a few maybe more inches of lift without fitting tyres. Ifs limits your travel but solid front end with coils not leafs is unlimited travel depending on shocks, i think iv just repeat myself there.

 

[Aido]

Fuel to fire.

Have these been considered? Nissan Portals