Vibration in navara st 2012 d40

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Dr Jugband

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After a dream run with the navara str I thought I'd treat myself to a new d40 this year with canopy. Looks swish. Before the 1000 k service I discovered an annoying vibration most noticible at 80. - 100 k/h. At the service they said they found a wheel balance issue which they they said fixed the problem. I have taken it back coz the vibration is still present. Not effected by engine revs so I was thinking it may be the drive shaft. They've just rung me to say the drive shaft has been balanced and the vibration is still there. They said they test drove 2 other d40's from the yard and they both had the same vibration!!
Anyone had similar problem? I've asked them to check with Nissan coz I'm reluctant to pick up the vehicle while it's still doing it.. :tazzy:
 
if your car is an auto, it could be the torque converter. this is a relatively common problem, mine being one. it occurs when cruising in top gear and when the car starts to load up it starts shuddering till it either kicks down or you back of the throttle. another way to check it is turn off the overdrive and take it for a run. if it does'nt do it, thats your problem. mine crept in after the warranty expired, so i just live with it
 
The story continues:
Got a call back from the service dept to say that they had contacted Nissan who replied that this is an inherent feature of the Nissan D40 being a commercial vehicle.
The shudder remains constant when in cruise control and slipping out of overdrive ie changing the revs at the same speed so I don't think it's in the transmission. Any other ideas??.
 
No probs with mine and now up to 80,000km, but it is a manual.
I did get a vibration after doing a river crossing and dented the tail shaft, which put it out of balance.
 
Try turning your overdrive button OFF and driving at the same speed. Problem goes away?

If it does, it's the torque converter like ericcs says. It's happened before, the TCC doesn't engage properly and causes the gearbox to engage and disengage it repeatedly, creating the vibration.

The TCC is only engaged when the vehicle is doing 75km/h or more, in Drive with overdrive ON, engine load < 50% and engine temp below 105C. Change any one of these and the TCC won't engage. Turn off your overdrive and give it a try.
 
Nah, the shudder continues unphased out of overdrive. I've tried it in the manual setting of the auto. Seems purely speed related. What I'm hearing from these service guys is that they can't fix it and navara are saying there's nothing wrong. If that's the case I'll be selling it back t them and getting a Ford!
 
Go to a different dealership and test drive another then if the vibration is not there you can tell them you want it fixed and you have driven others without the vibration
 
Yep. Good idea. They have offered to take me out in a couple of same models they have in their yard, so I'll try that first. Be a shame if I can't solve it coz I love it otherwise. Thanks for the input.
 
i have st d40 manual only 22,000km with vibration/noise thinking of selling it. problem started at 17,000 apprx everyone said its tyres. tyres have been replaced its not tyres its intermittent shaft checked by nissan said ok. sometimes feels like car is been held and tried on cruise control feels the same like something holding it and can feel vibration under feet. steering does not vibrate. sometimes feel like something not turning round. problem cant be found thought maybe cv joints but not sure anymore. nissan will not try and find the problem unless it becomes really big the vibration so if it vibrates a bit you stuck with it. anybody have any idea what it can be?
 
Spend a couple of hundred and put it on a dyno. I had to do that for a different problem. Nissan (prob most dealers) diagnostics aren't all that good unless there's codes to tell them where to look.
 
I am going through a long ongoing issue with Nissan at present for same issue, on a new 2010 plated 2011 delivered D40 STX manual. It now has 36,000klm (18 months old) and the issue has been getting chased via warranty from its first service. I have had a D40 prior to this (no problem) and am lucky enough to have other company cars that can be compared, about 10 in the last 5 years. this problem has not existed on any. (We have had mostly manual D40 STX (127kw and 140kw spec) , but also one auto and 1 550).
Nissan repeatadely acknowledged this as a known issue, until last service where they started claiming "common trait of the vehicle" thus no repair. Dealer advises they (Nissan au) cannot find a repair. The dealer claims they have tried every possibly solution in another vehicle (new engine mounts, driving with no tailshaft/rear diff installed, loosening body mounts, plus all the obvious type things).
My car has aftermarket wheels and cooper AT3, but has been tested with stock factory wheels and tires also and still has the issue.
I do have full OME suspension fitted form 3000klm, which could actually indicate the problem is not related to the stock suspension components. OME is all medium rated, front to take the weight of the bullbar, rear for towing but has the same rating in the first stage as stock springs, thus should not have much effect on the issue. Problem was there before this was fitted.

Issue improves and goes away with reasonable load in tray (sat 200kg) or if towing larger weights (say 150kg tow ball download). I have had 6+ separate wheel balances etc etc trying to resolve., flywheel considered but problem is not rev specific, even tried turning engine off o straight road at 10klm (dealer suggestion) with no difference, all the obvious things also checked. So far I am unable to have Nissan au authorise checking of balance on tailshaft, etc.
I am convinced it is something in the rear end (rotating mass) causing the issue based on dealers advice and other fixes they have attempted without success. The felling is very similar to rear wheel out of balance experienced on other D40's.
I am currently awaiting a reply form nissan to my written complain, however it sounds as though they will walk away from this. They also refuse to put anything I have been told in writing, so effectively there is no history trail of the issue other than what I claim and basic notes form service via the dealer...

No other Navaras we have had have ever had this issue, although I do note they have been fairly sensitive to wheel balance in the rear.

My next step is to drive another to try and show this is not a "common trait", however by phone Customer Service are basically saying it is a common problem, but only on a select few vehicles.
The D40 I test drove did NOT do it. The D40's I have parked next to it in the garage do NOT do it. So far we have found 1 in 10 only...... Not really a common trait.

I am sure this is not the answer you were looking for, but by all means feel free to take it up with Nissan, as they should not be walking away from this. The more people with this issue complaining, possibly the more chance they will take it seriously.

Out of interest the dealer had taken back a 3000klm old 550 with this problem, and delivered another new vehicle to one of their very good customers as the issue could not be solved. They did this without support of Nissan at their cost.

If you want any more details feel free to PM me. There is a lot of other information stuff done in an attempt to isolate the issue. the dealer is also experiencing grief as it effects his business, and he cannot get Nissan support.

Would be interested to hear how common an issue this really is.......

cheers.
 
I have heard of OME suspension causing vibrations in the current hilux, its fixed by using metal wedges or something, might be an idea to look into it.
 
Pretty sure that relates to wedges to rotate rear diff angle to tailshaft after a reasonable lift.
The OME I have is lifted about 35m front, 45mm rear. However the problem was there before that was fitted.
The wedges were one option that was investigated but, although never fitted as it was dismissed as the cause due to the minimal height difference.....
 
Could be your tailshaft out of balance? heard of that happening in some models since they are balanced in the factory or something.
 
Do D40's have a centre bearing set up on the rear shaft like the D22, if so it may pay to check that out.
When I fitted extended shackles I had a very bad vibration, I noticed the tail shaft was pushing hard into the centre bearing and rear of the gearbox, when I put weight in the back it improved a lot.
I ended up putting spacers under the centre bearing mount bracket to lift it and extended the holes to relieve the pressure and it works, feels nearly totally gone .
 
Hi i pickup up my D40 ST with 00022klm on the dash on the Wednesday before xmas and packed up and headed of on holidays left early boxing day about 2 hours in and noticed i had a vibration through the car started at 80 and went to 130klm the quicker i went the worse it got, where we were heading i new there was a dearler there so i went and chatted to them, we they didnt care and said they couldn't find anything, i contacted the dearer where i bought the car from, told me to look under the car. all looked ok. On our return trip home i started to try and diagnose more of the problem. my vibration starts at 80 and the vib got worse every 10k increases, its still there in netural and still there at 120 with the engine truned off and rolling, so its not engine or gearbox beening an ex nissan mechanic this has got me seriously wonder what it is, and offcause when at its 1st service they couldnt get to vibrate. very frustating... iam kind of glad to hear there are other vehicle out there so nissan will have to do something about this.
 
it sounds like the tailshaft to me.
When mine got a dent in it obviously throwing it out of balance, i only felt the vibration from around 80kph and got worse as i went faster.
As soon as i took it to "HARDY SPICER" and had the shaft cut out of the cups and changed it was back to smooth driving and it didnt cost that much at all to have them basically make a entire new tail shaft.
If it was me and Nissan were being so crapy not to send the shaft and have it balanced, i would do it myself. It only takes 5min to remove and it would cost very little, well worth the effort to rule it out at the very least.
 
Hi i pickup up my D40 ST with 00022klm on the dash on the Wednesday before xmas and packed up and headed of on holidays left early boxing day about 2 hours in and noticed i had a vibration through the car started at 80 and went to 130klm the quicker i went the worse it got, where we were heading i new there was a dearler there so i went and chatted to them, we they didnt care and said they couldn't find anything, i contacted the dearer where i bought the car from, told me to look under the car. all looked ok. On our return trip home i started to try and diagnose more of the problem. my vibration starts at 80 and the vib got worse every 10k increases, its still there in netural and still there at 120 with the engine truned off and rolling, so its not engine or gearbox beening an ex nissan mechanic this has got me seriously wonder what it is, and offcause when at its 1st service they couldnt get to vibrate. very frustating... iam kind of glad to hear there are other vehicle out there so nissan will have to do something about this.

That description is exactly what I have. I have asked two different sales reps form dealers over the last week about the issue, and if they were aware of it. All claim no knowledge of a known vibration problem, which contradicts the Nissan tech advice that it is a common "trait". Suggests I am correct in pursuing this, however also suggests Nissan may not be too clear on how top resolve. I will look closer into the tailshaft issues and see what support the dealer may be able to offer. Be interested to hear if others have experienced these issues. Just out of interest this car is 98% road and 2% beach. No real of road work so things should not be knocked about or damaged, but you never know...

cheers
 
I think you'd be very lucky to get Nissan to actually diagnose and repair the problem as they obviously don't want to admit there is a fault. You may need to go to a drive line specialist and get them to check the tailshaft balance while its on the car. I'd say Nissan just balances the shafts on a balancing machine but don't check them once they are on the car.

If it is a balance issue and can be fixed get them to forward the bill to Nissan...
 

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