Cheap rip off cars

[Dion]

Anybody else been seeing ads for these recently?

Navara at the front, d-max at the back, and absolute crap on the inside.

This argument is not structured or anything, I'm just blurting. I know there are great arguments in response.

I saw an interview from a Chinese motor show (might have been Beijing?) a while back where somebody, think it was Chery, had made an absolute ring-in for a Rolls Royce as a concept car. The interviewer was trying to just get him to admit it was a blatant rip-off, then move on, but the guy's like, "No, it is from our original sketches". Yeah, original sketches of a Roller.

I mean, fair enough, the Japanese started out and had great success copying English stuff and making it cheaper and more reliable, and they do it really well, but lying blatantly about it? And it's not "very similar". This thing was identical!

The Hyundai i30 is a ringer for a BMW 130i from behind, even the name is a rip off. I like to think that if you have a BMW, you've worked bloody hard to get there. Somebody mistaking a car half the value and half the quality for a BMW has to hurt.

Anybody seen the youtube videos of GWM and Chery cars going through crash testing? Entertaining. This isn't racially driven, it's just about quality.

 

[Dave]

That ute is a D22 front end virtually and a TF rodeo the rest.

I wouldn't buy one, aren't they running a Mitsubishi engine aswell.

Dave.

 

[Jason]

Wait until all the accessories start hitting ebay that make them look even more like original trucks, and guess where they come from as well........

Yeah I heard it was Mitsubishi engine.

 

[Matt76]

I was in china a few years back and there were identical rip off cars everywhere with strange badging. The locals were telling me the manufacturers sell off their old dies and other companies start making cars for themselves. They had a rip off HiAce van, absolute heap of crap it was, less than 3 months old with bits falling off it everywhere....

 

[Guido]

I can only see very minor similarities with the Navara, but Rodeo through and through! They may appeal to some people...especially when you can say "I can get 2 for the price of a Hilux". 3 year warranty is some peace of mind....maybe!

Guido

 

[Dion]

You can't see the resemblence? The headlights are the exact same models as on the D22, though I'd figure they weren't made by IKI...

 

[Guido]

You can't see the resemblence? The headlights are the exact same models as on the D22, though I'd figure they weren't made by IKI...

Yeah headlights and the black honeycombe grill are very similar. It's funny how they adopted the TF Rodeo shape for the 2WD model, while the 4WD model looks like the RA shape Rodeo.

Guido.

 

[mud4b]

At least the interior is a hell of a lot better looking than the navara..

cheers mark.

 

[joshy]

i rekn the navara interior is better looking/laid out

 

[STUTE]

Arent they the same car??

The D-max is an Izuzu, the Rodeo is a Isuzu.
Same car.
GM owns both i belive. I was in Thailand for a month last year and I saw all of these Rodeos going around.
Couldnt belive it, they wernt Rodeos of course they were D-Max.
They arnt so much Rodeos any more but the Colorado looks very similar.

I dont know if they a Triple Diamond motors or not but the Holden Gemini came out with an Isuzu motor and they badged some of the exports as Isuzu.

 

[Dion]

Yeah, a Rodeo is a rebadged Isuzu, that's fine, it's more that this Great Wall Motor 'ute' resembles a d-max/rodeo and a D22, probably are just old dies as Matt76 experienced. It's just odd.

 

[Old.Tony]

There is an argument in their favour - recycling, and bonus points for being imaginative enough to get them all together.

I knew about these before I signed on the dotted line for my Navara. I won't touch them because I need to have more confidence in the brand before I jump at it. My [previous car] was as solid as a rock and my Navara (having only done 1100km in the 4 days I've been driving it around) is proving a sturdy, reliable machine.

Nissan have a history and it's not a bad one. Great Wall don't have the runs on the board, and until they do, I doubt that many would take them seriously.

I'm sure they'll get some fleet sales in, and we'll start to see them used by courier firms and in a few years, they'll have started to "earn their stripes" - if they deserve it.

 

[Jason]

Isuzu own the Rodeo name, they used to make the truck for Holden. When they bought out the D-Max they took the name with them, that's why the new Holden is a Colorado.

That's what I heard anyway

 

[raywise]

From what I've read over the last few months about Rodeo/Isuzu Holden ownership, you heard right,

Hoo Roo

 

[KraftyPg]

The latest word I heard about the Colorado's is that after the whole GM/Isuzu split GM ran off with what they could but have now realised sales just aren't high enough to warrant continuing production and by the end of the year Colorado's will be off the market.

The really sad part about that is that cheap manufacturers like Great Wall and Sang Yong will benefit from those who are convinced Nav's an Hilux's are too expensive. Even in the limited ks I do these days I'm starting to see more of these GW's out there, I'm just thankful they are usually going the other way and the driver can't see me laughing at them.

 

[bullwinkle]

I've only seen one Great Wall ute on the road. Actually it was parked at the time. My 12 year old son is a bit of a car nut and spotted it and recognised it straight away. He inherited my good taste because he reckons they're 'bloody ugly' - his words!

 

[flashum1]

I've only seen one Great Wall ute on the road. Actually it was parked at the time. My 12 year old son is a bit of a car nut and spotted it and recognised it straight away. He inherited my good taste because he reckons they're 'bloody ugly' - his words!

atta boy!

seen one the other week, thought it was a dodgey rodeo some tosser got ahold of and attempted to modify

 

[karl]

when i brought my nav these things were all through the shop, looked like they were trying to get rid of them, massive advertisment.
2wd have the rodeo engine in them, cant remember what the 4x4 had in it.
my salesman said they were selling well to young tradies. i havernt seen one around surfers yet.

 

[Deejay]

when i brought my nav these things were all through the shop, looked like they were trying to get rid of them, massive advertisment.
2wd have the rodeo engine in them, cant remember what the 4x4 had in it.
my salesman said they were selling well to young tradies. i havernt seen one around surfers yet.

Hey Karl,

LOL, first time I read your post I though it said; "my salesman said they are selling well to young ladies.

Funny that! I wonder if that was some kind of freudian dyslexia or something?

Cheers,

Deejay

 

[Chartrock]

I was in China in 1961 (before most of you were born ) and it was still a closed country. I was a Marine Engineer and as a worker I was allowed ashore under escort. We were taken to the Sino-Soviet Exhibition Hall and shown some of China's "achievements". The one that sticks in my mind was the large turbine rotor similar to the ones in our ship's engine with our guide telling us how it took Europeans 40 years to develop turbines like this but China had developed them in just 1 year. That was their attitude to all the ripoffs, (and the hall was full of them) they just "developed" them so much quicker than other countries.